ATF settles case to avoid court ruling AR Lowers not Receivers

Netpackrat · Post by **Netpackrat** » Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:47 am

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/11/us/ar-15 ... index.html

Langenator · Post by **Langenator** » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:43 am

I wonder how many other rifle (and possibly shotguns?) this might apply to? SCAR? Remington ACR?

IIRC, the requirement for serial #s, and thus the definition of 'receiver', comes from the GCA 68, which means that the AR design pre-dates the law. But I'm sure the Usual Suspects will screech even more about AR-15s being 'designed to evade the law' anyway.

Vonz90 · Post by **Vonz90** » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:05 pm

I will go on record that this is a can of worms we will not be happy about being opened.

Netpackrat · Post by **Netpackrat** » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:38 pm

I would be shocked if it gets to that point. ATF will continue to dodge it until they can get the issue before a judge willing to show the agency the sort of deference they are accustomed to.

BDK · Post by **BDK** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:15 am

Anyone want to take odds that they'll try to use it to get ARs declared AOWs?

Jered · Post by **Jered** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:03 am

I saw that. Why do we even have the ATF if they don't want to take cases like that to trial?

It's not like they can approve tax stamps in a timely fashion.

Precision · Post by **Precision** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:08 pm

Jered wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:03 am I saw that. Why do we even have the ATF if they don't want to take cases like that to trial?

It's not like they can approve tax stamps in a timely fashion.

Oh they CAN. They willfully choose not to. Last I heard there were 7, yes SEVEN people who do all the NFA paperwork for the entire country. Intentional suppression of a right by slow walking.

Jered · Post by **Jered** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:43 am

Precision wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:08 pm
Jered wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:03 am I saw that. Why do we even have the ATF if they don't want to take cases like that to trial?

It's not like they can approve tax stamps in a timely fashion.
Oh they CAN. They willfully choose not to. Last I heard there were 7, yes SEVEN people who do all the NFA paperwork for the entire country. Intentional suppression of a right by slow walking.

I heard that they hired a bunch of legal instrument examiners recently.

HTRN · Post by **HTRN** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:06 am

Precision wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:08 pm
Jered wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:03 am I saw that. Why do we even have the ATF if they don't want to take cases like that to trial?

It's not like they can approve tax stamps in a timely fashion.
Oh they CAN. They willfully choose not to. Last I heard there were 7, yes SEVEN people who do all the NFA paperwork for the entire country. Intentional suppression of a right by slow walking.

Blame congress - they dont allocate enough funds to do adequate staffing.

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