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"Wedge Issues"

Postby Vonz90 » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:26 pm

Otherwise known as highlighting conservative things on which a majority of voters agree but Democrats dislike.

Also known as good politics.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... -backfires

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Re: "Wedge Issues"

Postby Precision » Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:50 am

Vonz90 wrote:Otherwise known as highlighting conservative things on which a majority of voters agree but Democrats dislike.

Also known as good politics.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... -backfires

Yup.

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Re: "Wedge Issues"

Postby Vonz90 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:41 pm

Vonz90 wrote:Otherwise known as highlighting conservative things on which a majority of voters agree but Democrats dislike.

Also known as good politics.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... -backfires


Well it certainly did not work. The GOP was down across the board in VA (and NJ, but that was a given). I think this shows some of the limit of a Trump centric GOP. He personally motivates a lot of people (apparently) but that does not carry over to the the rest of the GOP. This is not unlike Obama's impact for the Dems.

I think part of the problem was the messenger. Gillespie was a long time establishment kind of guy, so he did not sound very convincing on some of the issues (I would rather he soft pedaled the Confederate monument thing too, but I am not a VA voter so ???). In the end he did not reassure the suburban voters and did not motivate the lower middle class voters.

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Postby blackeagle603 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:25 pm

Gillespie was not the real deal so that is a confounding factor (Establishment Repub in MAGA clothing). Not sure what to make of this.

Perhaps of greater significance is the felon vote that's now made it's entrance into the VA electoral calculus.
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Re: "Wedge Issues"

Postby Greg » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:11 pm

Vonz90 wrote:
Vonz90 wrote:Otherwise known as highlighting conservative things on which a majority of voters agree but Democrats dislike.

Also known as good politics.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... -backfires


Well it certainly did not work. The GOP was down across the board in VA (and NJ, but that was a given). I think this shows some of the limit of a Trump centric GOP. He personally motivates a lot of people (apparently) but that does not carry over to the the rest of the GOP. This is not unlike Obama's impact for the Dems.

I think part of the problem was the messenger. Gillespie was a long time establishment kind of guy, so he did not sound very convincing on some of the issues (I would rather he soft pedaled the Confederate monument thing too, but I am not a VA voter so ???). In the end he did not reassure the suburban voters and did not motivate the lower middle class voters.


Um, he ran as a Democrat. Just a moderate one.

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Re: "Wedge Issues"

Postby Langenator » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:39 am

blackeagle603 wrote:Gillespie was not the real deal so that is a confounding factor (Establishment Repub in MAGA clothing). Not sure what to make of this.

Perhaps of greater significance is the felon vote that's now made it's entrance into the VA electoral calculus.


To put it another way: Gillespie ran a JEB! campaign in a Trump world.

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Re: "Wedge Issues"

Postby Vonz90 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:41 am

Langenator wrote:
blackeagle603 wrote:Gillespie was not the real deal so that is a confounding factor (Establishment Repub in MAGA clothing). Not sure what to make of this.

Perhaps of greater significance is the felon vote that's now made it's entrance into the VA electoral calculus.


To put it another way: Gillespie ran a JEB! campaign in a Trump world.

https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/gil ... tics-1996/


Or to look at it in another way, he lost by almost exactly the same percentage that Trump lost Virginia by.


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