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"Wedge Issues"

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:26 pm
by Vonz90
Otherwise known as highlighting conservative things on which a majority of voters agree but Democrats dislike.

Also known as good politics.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... -backfires

Re: "Wedge Issues"

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:50 am
by Precision
Vonz90 wrote:Otherwise known as highlighting conservative things on which a majority of voters agree but Democrats dislike.

Also known as good politics.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... -backfires
Yup.

Some people here in TN are attempting to get me to put my had in the ring for TN general Assembly. I am proof against such nonsense until 2020 as I won't have been a resident for 3 years until then.
If when I do run, I will run on Hard Facts, Good policies, NO BS or PC genuflecting and I will do some (perhaps most) of my ads like Black Rifle Coffee Company. Direct, in your face, leaving little to ambiguity and quite funny ( I hope ) as I skewer the retards.

Re: "Wedge Issues"

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:41 pm
by Vonz90
Vonz90 wrote:Otherwise known as highlighting conservative things on which a majority of voters agree but Democrats dislike.

Also known as good politics.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... -backfires
Well it certainly did not work. The GOP was down across the board in VA (and NJ, but that was a given). I think this shows some of the limit of a Trump centric GOP. He personally motivates a lot of people (apparently) but that does not carry over to the the rest of the GOP. This is not unlike Obama's impact for the Dems.

I think part of the problem was the messenger. Gillespie was a long time establishment kind of guy, so he did not sound very convincing on some of the issues (I would rather he soft pedaled the Confederate monument thing too, but I am not a VA voter so ???). In the end he did not reassure the suburban voters and did not motivate the lower middle class voters.

Re: "Wedge Issues"

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:25 pm
by blackeagle603
Gillespie was not the real deal so that is a confounding factor (Establishment Repub in MAGA clothing). Not sure what to make of this.

Perhaps of greater significance is the felon vote that's now made it's entrance into the VA electoral calculus.

Re: "Wedge Issues"

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:11 pm
by Greg
Vonz90 wrote:
Vonz90 wrote:Otherwise known as highlighting conservative things on which a majority of voters agree but Democrats dislike.

Also known as good politics.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... -backfires
Well it certainly did not work. The GOP was down across the board in VA (and NJ, but that was a given). I think this shows some of the limit of a Trump centric GOP. He personally motivates a lot of people (apparently) but that does not carry over to the the rest of the GOP. This is not unlike Obama's impact for the Dems.

I think part of the problem was the messenger. Gillespie was a long time establishment kind of guy, so he did not sound very convincing on some of the issues (I would rather he soft pedaled the Confederate monument thing too, but I am not a VA voter so ???). In the end he did not reassure the suburban voters and did not motivate the lower middle class voters.
Um, he ran as a Democrat. Just a moderate one.

https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/gil ... tics-1996/

When your campaign ads quote the WaPo and MSNBC..... WTF?

Re: "Wedge Issues"

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:39 pm
by Langenator
blackeagle603 wrote:Gillespie was not the real deal so that is a confounding factor (Establishment Repub in MAGA clothing). Not sure what to make of this.

Perhaps of greater significance is the felon vote that's now made it's entrance into the VA electoral calculus.
To put it another way: Gillespie ran a JEB! campaign in a Trump world.

https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/gil ... tics-1996/

Re: "Wedge Issues"

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:41 am
by Vonz90
Langenator wrote:
blackeagle603 wrote:Gillespie was not the real deal so that is a confounding factor (Establishment Repub in MAGA clothing). Not sure what to make of this.

Perhaps of greater significance is the felon vote that's now made it's entrance into the VA electoral calculus.
To put it another way: Gillespie ran a JEB! campaign in a Trump world.

https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/gil ... tics-1996/
Or to look at it in another way, he lost by almost exactly the same percentage that Trump lost Virginia by.