CRULazyGutlessSonofabitchUUZ!

[Jericho941]

Indeed.

Still, I can't help but wonder if GOP establishment figures saying "I'm not ready to support Donald Trump at this time" is a soft form of support. Paul Ryan et al saying that doesn't actually hurt Trump at all, as he's styled himself as an "anti-establishment" figure. Everyone giving up the ghost and throwing in with Trump might actually hurt him. This could be the only way the establishment can fall in line: by saying they don't. Actions -and money- speak louder than words, so we'll see how it really shakes out.

[Vonz90]

May be some time for the Establishment doing a Trump reality soak could improve their attitude toward Cruz.

Right. I had an RCOB moment the other day when I read that Trump had suggested re-negotiating with holders of US debt to pay less than was owed, like in a bankruptcy. I couldn't fracking believe that he was basically suggesting we default, which would cause the dollar to plummet and lose its place as the world's reserve currency virtually overnight, and we would be screwed six ways to Sunday. The US economy isn't one of his casinos where he can work the bankruptcy system. The man is a menace.

Why still no like button.

[Aesop]

Indeed.

Still, I can't help but wonder if GOP establishment figures saying "I'm not ready to support Donald Trump at this time" is a soft form of support. Paul Ryan et al saying that doesn't actually hurt Trump at all, as he's styled himself as an "anti-establishment" figure. Everyone giving up the ghost and throwing in with Trump might actually hurt him. This could be the only way the establishment can fall in line: by saying they don't. Actions -and money- speak louder than words, so we'll see how it really shakes out.

The "establishment" is falling in line with telling Trump, like a dog who finally caught a car, "Okay, you got the nomination, even though you're exactly as Republican as Shrillary is, so now go run for president - without the support of any of the other 60% of the party, including us."
I already said Republican rank-and-file is going to sit this one out by millions, and the figureheads are all sitting on their hands, and letting Trump twist in the wind.

For the Bitch McConnells of the party, this is a two-fer: they let the fucktard nominal Republican voters who put Trump in place with a mere plurality in 4-17-person races go suck eggs and take their lumps, their delusional faith in Trump and commensurate swamp-fever support dissipating by the minute; and they simultaneously defuse the whole "dump the incumbent pussies" clamor coming from the hunk of the party that's actually conservative. ("See, you ignorant flyover boobs, we TOLD you a conservative can't get the nomination, ever, so stop bothering us!") Genius.

That Trump's nomination has virtually guaranteed President Shrillary for one-term (barring appropriate legal action to indict her for committing 30,000 or so federal felonies) they regard as merely a temporary setback, and a reset to the status quo ante of the last 6 years. Yeah, we lose the conservative majority on SCOTUS, they figure, but they prefer SCOTUS to fuck the country over, because then they can point to all those uncomfortable issues they'd rather ignore, and weasel out of changing things with "Sorry, it's the law, we can't fix that". Which, e.g. regarding ObamaCare, is their preferred m.o. 24/7/365, and the precise reason we have Donald & The Trumpkins as a political phenomenon in the first place.

Their strategy is to smear more mustard and mayo on the shit sandwich, and then recuse themselves from the picnic.

As a hat trick, whether Hairpiece or Shrillary wins, the economy is poised for a complete global meltdown, at which point they can quite rationally point out regardless of who's holding the bag, that it arguably isn't the GOP's fault, as neither candidate is "their guy". And, for once, actually be telling the truth.

And for his part in getting us to this point, Kasich alone needs to be burned alive at the stake, fed into the flames feet-first, while the surrounding crowd squirtguns gasoline and cooking oil on him.



And as further proof of her monstrous failapalooza of political fail, Squirly Failerina could've run for the US Senate seat knothead Boxer is vacating this year, thus facing non-incumbent Democrat @$$holes (who really need to be taken out politically), and actually having a shot at winning - thus simultaneously serving both the people of this state, the party, and the nation, not to mention qualifying her for further political aspirations - but no, she had to try and bootstrap herself right into the top slot, and then help drag Cruz down in the pit with her, after her predictable elimination. With nothing to show for it but the waste of another wheelbarrow full of millions, everyone's time, and oh, the certainty of the Trump-Shrillary devil's dilemma we have now. People have been rightfully tarred and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail in this country for far lesser crimes against humanity.

The primary rules in 2020 should require that any Republican candidate finishing lower than 4th overall after Super Tuesday be either executed, for the good of the GOP, or lifetime-exiled to Zimbabwe or Cuba, to the betterment of all countries concerned.

[Mike OTDP]

Hillary in the Oval [strike]negotiating with[/strike] selling American policy out to Iran, Putin and the Norks: First Husband Bill walking the halls of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue scouting interns when he isn't [strike]working[/strike] blackmailing Congress.

Think about that.

FIFY

[MarkD]

OK, let me explain.

No, would take too long, let me summarize.

The last few cycles we had Republican nominees Bush Sr (won largely because he was Reagan's VP, then lost, as an incumbent, to Clinton with a little help from Perot), Dole (interesting as a bowl of mashed turnips), Bush Jr (probably to the left of JFK, and the only reason he won re-election is because he was actually willing to FIGHT after 9/11), McCain (whose big campaign promise was to spent more time on the other side of the aisle than on his own) and Romney (the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama the first time around). We yell that the establishment keeps putting up these clowns, and beg for a Conservative.

Then this year we have a couple Conservatives (Cruz and Carson for instance), none PERFECT, but people we could vote for. Cruz having the additional benefit that the establishment hated him. But then we have Trump pulling an Obama, coming out of nowhere politically, offering a half-assed message that low-information voters eat up. Promising to make America great again, without any real plan on how to do so (sounds JUST like Hope and Change).

Lets face it, those of us who understand history and economics are outnumbered by folks who get all their information in 140 character bites. People who were educated in the public school system that has abandoned teaching civics or economics in favor of gender studies and political correctness. And you wonder why we're screwed in an outhouse?

Oh, I wonder who Trump will choose as running mate? Christie perhaps???? Just what we need!

Are Trump and Hillary the same? No. Why? Because NEITHER side will work with Trump to get done what he wants, and BOTH sides would work with Hillary (just like they have for the last eight years). A government that has trouble accomplishing anything is a GOOD thing. It would be nice to see both sides of Congress united AGAINST the narcissist in the White House instead of both sides fighting for the honor of kissing his ass first.

[Weetabix]

Are Trump and Hillary the same? No. Why? Because NEITHER side will work with Trump to get done what he wants, and BOTH sides would work with Hillary (just like they have for the last eight years). A government that has trouble accomplishing anything is a GOOD thing. It would be nice to see both sides of Congress united AGAINST the narcissist in the White House instead of both sides fighting for the honor of kissing his ass first.

Hm. THAT might get me to pull the lever for Trump.

[Aesop]

OK, let me explain.

No, would take too long, let me summarize.

...

Bravo. Well-played. I mean that sincerely. Almost persuasive.

And then I remember Trump is Obama with a (largely ceremonial, and utterly insincere) [R] after his name, and
I realize they're both going to eff over the country just about exactly equally, and I figure between what they're sure to do, and what events in the big wide world are likely to do, I'd rather have the other team's monkey-brained jackhole holding the bag when it explodes.

And I also want the people who foisted the current situation upon the entire country to get what they have coming, good and hard.

Shrillary for President 2016.

(As an added bonus incentive, should she be non-indicted on 30,000 felony counts, demonstrating the rule of law is something in the rearview mirror for America for the foreseeable future, it makes the inevitable societal meltdown and reign of Madame Guillotine that much easier to ignite. The republic we used to have is now cold and dead, and it isn't getting zapped back to life this election.

If Trump and Shrillary both have fatal heart attacks this summer, or someone drops a house on them both, I'll reconsider my position. It would also be an unassailable argument for the existence of a benevolent deity.)

[MarkD]

OK, let me explain.

No, would take too long, let me summarize.

...

Bravo. Well-played. I mean that sincerely. Almost persuasive.

And then I remember Trump is Obama with a (largely ceremonial, and utterly insincere) [R] after his name, and
I realize they're both going to eff over the country just about exactly equally, and I figure between what they're sure to do, and what events in the big wide world are likely to do, I'd rather have the other team's monkey-brained jackhole holding the bag when it explodes.

And I also want the people who foisted the current situation upon the entire country to get what they have coming, good and hard.

Shrillary for President 2016.

(As an added bonus incentive, should she be non-indicted on 30,000 felony counts, demonstrating the rule of law is something in the rearview mirror for America for the foreseeable future, it makes the inevitable societal meltdown and reign of Madame Guillotine that much easier to ignite. The republic we used to have is now cold and dead, and it isn't getting zapped back to life this election.

If Trump and Shrillary both have fatal heart attacks this summer, or someone drops a house on them both, I'll reconsider my position. It would also be an unassailable argument for the existence of a benevolent deity.)

Hey, I call it like I see it, you do what you gotta do and I'll do what I gotta do.

This year I can't blame the RNC for foisting the (alleged) Republican nominee on us.

Imagine, if you will, what would have happened had McCain won in 2008. And suppose he decided to offer his own version of the Affordable Health Care Act, because Caring Conservative (tm). Do you think McCainCare would have passed? The D's would have refused to support anything suggested by an R (even ino). Half the R's would have "crossed the aisle" to stand in solidarity with the Ds and we'd lack the bullshit we've seen with our health care system (and which EVERYONE with a brain, which discounts 51% of the population AND both houses of Congress) predicted before we even passed the law to see what's in it.

Now imagine Trump deciding he wants to accomplish anything. He may go down in history as the first President to spend four years in office without signing a SINGLE bill into law. And if we decided to go with executive orders he'd be impeached before we got the "x" out of his mouth, and no one would care because he's not the first black President.

[Aesop]

You assume far too much goodness or commitment to anything he's said from Trump.
I think he's going to revert to biblical levels of douchebaggery, because the sonofabitch answers to no one now.
And I don't believe he meant, nor remembers, anything he said 5 minutes ago.
Were he to win, I think he'd make us long for Fat Bill or HopeyDopey in short order, and probably embarrass even Mussolini.

Shrillary, by contrast, is despised to the marrow of her black shriveled soul, by 100% of the Republicans in Washington, and 50% of the Dems.
The rest of the Dems want to give her a tongue bath.
She gets in, and 1/3 of the Ds wanting to keep their jobs in the mid-terms will join a veto-proof majority.
Then again, that's about what Trump is facing 40-70% of the time too.
(Scariest thought of all: That leaves Quisling Ryan and Bitch McConjob in functional control of the country for the next 4 years.
Along with whatever waste-of-skin is the next appointee to SCOTUS, and becomes the one-person majority for the next 10-20 years.
Which is why every Trumpkin and every country club "establishment" Republican voter should be crotch-kicked for an hour every day until the nightmare ends.)

No matter who wins, we're all f****d, and everyone knows it. Politically, economically, and societally.
When the rest of the world figures it out, things are going to get sporty.

The tipping point is going to be when Wall Street rushes the exits. Barring a miracle, anywhere from this fall to next.

In Titanic terms, right about now, we're still at the point when the stewards are politely knocking at the first class cabins for everyone to get their life jackets and please muster on the promenade deck.

I'm really not looking forward to the follow-on from there.

[Netpackrat]

Hillary has the blood of too many good Americans on her hands. She is an evil, deceitful, and treacherous bitch who cannot be allowed near the levers of power again. She abandoned a US ambassador and those who had come to his aid to their deaths, and she compromised some of the nation's greatest secrets in the name of avoiding the accountability that is expected of all civil servants. I will not allow her to become president through my inaction, so I will vote for whoever appears to have the best chance of beating her.

If it comes down to Trump vs. some other liberal piece of shit, then I don't know what I am going to do.