The case against Greitens

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Re: The case against Greitens

Post by Langenator » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:14 pm

skb12172 wrote:Why did the felony case in Texas, against the presidential hopeful, get so far before being thrown out? Sadly, the Democrats I talk to are OK with this kind of thing, as long as Republicans are the victims.
To them, of course, the investigation into Hitlery's email server, and the classified material found there, was a politically motivated witch hunt. Nevermind that their side actually controlled the investigating agency (or that she's clearly guilty, and her pantsuit should be prison orange right now.)
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Re: The case against Greitens

Post by skb12172 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:41 am

A new, second felony charge. The Republicans are starting to turn on him.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... b.amp.html
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Re: The case against Greitens

Post by Netpackrat » Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:49 am

In a nation of laws, you investigate a crime to try to find evidence showing which person committed it. In a nation of men, you investigate a person to try to find evidence of a crime.
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Re: The case against Greitens

Post by g-man » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:39 am

skb12172 wrote:A new, second felony charge. The Republicans are starting to turn on him.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... b.amp.html
So... AG Hawley is is the front-running Republican trying to unseat the incumbent Democrat Senator. He's taking a 'hard line' on Greitens in what appears to be an attempt to look better to moderate voters who might be influenced to vote against the Democrat, but aren't happy with Greitens' alleged conduct. Color me surprised.
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Re: The case against Greitens

Post by Greg » Wed May 16, 2018 3:20 am

And the original felony charges were just dropped.

In addition, the lead 'investigator' is now looking at his own perjury investigation.
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Re: The case against Greitens

Post by Vonz90 » Wed May 16, 2018 4:18 am

I am not a Greitens fan, but I am even less of a fan of using random over reaching investigations to take down political opponents. I think the Collusion investigation falls in the same camp (not a Trump fan either).

For reference, I wasn't in favor of the Whitewater or Irangate expansions either. Although the original investigations in those cases at least involved crimes, but they rapidly deteriorated from there. That seems to be the way they go.

Greitens big issue now is that after a year + in office bashing his own party, not too many of them feel like jumping to his defense .

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Re: The case against Greitens

Post by Netpackrat » Wed May 16, 2018 8:36 am

When did ANY government entity ever close up shop and go away voluntarily after their original purpose was no longer applicable?
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Re: The case against Greitens

Post by Windy Wilson » Wed May 16, 2018 9:28 pm

Netpackrat wrote:In a nation of laws, you investigate a crime to try to find evidence showing which person committed it. In a nation of men, you investigate a person to try to find evidence of a crime.
It's been attributed to Stalin, but I think Felix Dzerzhinsky said it first, "Show me the man, I'll show you the crime."
Iron Felix was, of course, the head of the Soviet Cheka, the OGPU, and the GPU.
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