Netpackrat wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:44 am
Greg wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:01 am
When did it become fashionable to grip your AR as far forward on the handguard as absolutely possible, and why?
AKA the Chris Costa grip. Tends not to work well with the AK for multiple reasons.
Thanks for the pointer.
Did a little more research and it seems to be a general trend, other people seem to be in favor of gripping as far forward as possible with the support hand but this fellow seems to have a 'take it up a notch - bam!' kind of approach to it.
The general theory seems to be, the more forward your support hand grips the more leverage it has on the rifle. So you can swing the rifle around with more speed and precision or something, faster transitions in CQB, etc etc.
The 'bam' seems to be that Costa rotates his arm so his elbow would extend horizontally (if it extended, actually the arm is pretty much locked straight). The argument being that that's what you do with your support hand when firing a handgun, so that's what must be good to do with the support hand when firing a rifle.
My objection to the general theory is, you may have more leverage on the gun but your own body has less leverage the farther away any action you take is from your core. So this shit is going to be awkward and exhausting unless you train for it specifically and even then it'll be tiring. Also it would seem to go against a fundamental maxim - big actions are slow. The farther out you push that arm, the bigger the action you have to take to make any adjustment.
My specific objection is, there's one BIG reason why it's to your advantage to have your arms essentially locked out straight when shooting a pistol, and that's to better transfer recoil, with more control. Is your support hand on a rifle transferring recoil? (I suppose the argument could be made that having the support arm out at max extension would make it better at pulling the rifle in to the body, it's essentially forced to do that.)
And there's a shit ton of arguing over this stuff on the 'nets and 'webs.
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