No Bad Students

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skb12172
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No Bad Students

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Only bad teachers. This hippy horseshit is making the rounds again. I find it usually has two sources...

1) Kids fresh out of their Education degree programs.

2) People who have never taught professionally in their lives.

Discuss...
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3) Parents of lazy/undisciplined little turds.

4) Peter-Principled school administrators.
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5) People with no children (no matter how good your kids are, they will interact with other kids who aren't which means you will as well)

6) People with no experience in working with kids in any capacity (Scouts, athletics, youth groups, etc.)
...even before I read MHI, my response to seeing a poster for the stars of the latest Twilight movies was "I see 2 targets and a collaborator".
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Hey, I was that kid! :mrgreen:
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Its better to have no teacher then. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/fr ... rge-survey
You don't want to be anti science do you? Get rid of teachers, for the children! :ugeek:
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You could end up with a lot of gaps in your education that way. I would at least check them against the GED guidelines.
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skb12172 wrote:You could end up with a lot of gaps in your education that way. I would at least check them against the GED guidelines.
It turns out thats not any more of an issue than regular schooled children
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-new ... 180952613/
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Not surprised at all. The vast majority of public schooling is a colossal waste of time, energy and resources.
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slowpoke wrote:
skb12172 wrote:You could end up with a lot of gaps in your education that way. I would at least check them against the GED guidelines.
It turns out thats not any more of an issue than regular schooled children
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-new ... 180952613/
Does. Not. Compute. To wit:
And, says KQED, unschooled kids did report having trouble with math and, as a group, disproportionately favored careers in the "creative arts."
Does not align with:
Many of the unschooled kids, however, did follow their passions into technical fields: “half of the men and about 20 percent of the women,” says KQED, went in to fields that required a substantial background in science, technology or math.
National average for bachelor's graduates is 40% in STEM for men, and 28% for women. So according to their data, boys chose STEM fields in college at a higher rate than average, and girls at a slightly lower rate. Neither of which indicates significant trouble with math, nor a predilection for the creative arts. You'd think a 'science writer' with a B.Sc. in 'physical science' would have less trouble with those maths...
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g-man wrote:
slowpoke wrote:
skb12172 wrote:You could end up with a lot of gaps in your education that way. I would at least check them against the GED guidelines.
It turns out thats not any more of an issue than regular schooled children
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-new ... 180952613/
Does. Not. Compute. To wit:
And, says KQED, unschooled kids did report having trouble with math and, as a group, disproportionately favored careers in the "creative arts."
Does not align with:
Many of the unschooled kids, however, did follow their passions into technical fields: “half of the men and about 20 percent of the women,” says KQED, went in to fields that required a substantial background in science, technology or math.
National average for bachelor's graduates is 40% in STEM for men, and 28% for women. So according to their data, boys chose STEM fields in college at a higher rate than average, and girls at a slightly lower rate. Neither of which indicates significant trouble with math, nor a predilection for the creative arts. You'd think a 'science writer' with a B.Sc. in 'physical science' would have less trouble with those maths...
Doesnt change my point though. I dont actually agree with the unschooling principle; Its just that everything is better than the prussian school system.
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