Jeep Cherokee and Jeep Grand Cherokee?

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Jeep Cherokee and Jeep Grand Cherokee?

Post by toad » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:22 pm

I got nostalgic for a vehicle with a straight 6 engine.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/v ... x-revival/

The last ones available in the US are in the old Jeep Cherokee and the Grand Jeep Cherokee. If my research is correct the latest vehicle with an I6 is the 2006 Grand Cherokee. I can't figure out the difference between the Jeep Cherokee and the Grand Cherokee. Weak google fu on my part.

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Re: Jeep Cherokee and Jeep Grand Cherokee?

Post by randy » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:30 pm

I had one of the last of the true Cherokees (2001, I don't count the current foolishness).

It was smaller and had fewer features and toys, and thus cost less than the Grand Cherokee.

On a non-tech level it seemed to me (in price, size and features) to be the Jeep equivalent as between a Chevy Blazer and Trailblazer.
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Re: Jeep Cherokee and Jeep Grand Cherokee?

Post by First Shirt » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:52 pm

I've got a 2017 Grand Cherokee Laredo 4X4. It's got some bells-and-whistles that I don't need, and don't use, but overall, it's a lot of fun to drive, gets great gas mileage (I'm almost 2 MPG over the stated 25 MPG highway mileage) and I haven't gotten it into anything that it can't get out of. It could have better visibility from the driver's seat, and a little more ground clearance, but for the price, there's nothing out there that would work better for what I need.
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Re: Jeep Cherokee and Jeep Grand Cherokee?

Post by tfbncc » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:18 am

I owned both the Cherokee and Grand Cherokee with the inline 6. The best advice I got about that was both cars use the same engine. The Grand Cherokee weighs 1000 lbs more than the Cherokee and has more crap attached. Plus, the Grand Cherokee was plagued by wierd electrical problems most of it's production run. So, if I had a choice, I'd find a good 2000 or later Cherokee and have fun building it up into a halfway decent trail truck.

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Re: Jeep Cherokee and Jeep Grand Cherokee?

Post by Netpackrat » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:47 am

Wrangler had the 4.0 through '06 also. Stay away from the 00-01 4.0 engine (which I know rules out the last 2 years of the XJ). The head castings are bad and most of them eventually crack in the vicinity of 150K miles. And it causes issues that will take down the rest of the engine. Don't ask how I know this... The casting numbers of the good and bad heads are the same. You can tell if you have one of the "fixed" heads by removing the oil filler cap, looking down at the top of the head. If the letters "TUPY" are cast into it, you have one of the later good heads.
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Re: Jeep Cherokee and Jeep Grand Cherokee?

Post by evan price » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:56 am

The zj is the grand Cherokee, it's a bigger truck with available v8. The I6 in that truck was mediocre due to its increased weight.

The xj cherokee used the I6 from 88 through 01. 96 and newer are the Chrysler design.
The HO 4.0 started in 1991. The 00 and 01 used the coil on plug head which is different. 98 and newer had the casting issues but it's not a big deal to swap heads.
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There's a huge following for xjs and parts are everywhere. It's probably I've of the last straight axle straight six 4wd out there.
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Re: Jeep Cherokee and Jeep Grand Cherokee?

Post by HTRN » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:05 am

evan price wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:56 am
The zj is the grand Cherokee, it's a bigger truck with available v8.
Isnt it also unit body construction?
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Re: Jeep Cherokee and Jeep Grand Cherokee?

Post by Netpackrat » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:32 pm

HTRN wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:05 am
evan price wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:56 am
The zj is the grand Cherokee, it's a bigger truck with available v8.
Isnt it also unit body construction?
Yeah, but so is the XJ.
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Re: Jeep Cherokee and Jeep Grand Cherokee?

Post by HTRN » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:42 pm

Huh. I c thought the xj was conventional body on frame..
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Re: Jeep Cherokee and Jeep Grand Cherokee?

Post by Netpackrat » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:43 am

Even the Comanche pickup based on the XJ (MJ?) was a unitized body.
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