Hence the rise of self-service check-out (which I nonetheless despise, since I'm not paid to work for the grocery store. Offer me a 5% discount for using it, and we can talk.).
The machines don't have a union.
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I know. I hate grocery shopping, and the grocery stores seem to make it harder to take my money. They are there to take my money, and I despise those damn machines.Aesop wrote:Hence the rise of self-service check-out (which I nonetheless despise, since I'm not paid to work for the grocery store. Offer me a 5% discount for using it, and we can talk.).
The machines don't have a union.
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I shop at Kroger here for most of our regular food items. Big stuff, I go to Costco. I also use the self service so I don't get anything bagged on top of soft items(bread) ? Ice cream in with produce or canned goods?Aesop wrote:Hence the rise of self-service check-out (which I nonetheless despise, since I'm not paid to work for the grocery store. Offer me a 5% discount for using it, and we can talk.).
The machines don't have a union.
My first job away from home was bagging at Lucky Markets . I had a manager that was a tyrant and taught all us kids the proper way to bag or else. $.77/hour !
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Louisiana is right-to-work. So is Texas, IIRC.evan price wrote:Because terminations require a clear chain of events. Kroger is unionized (UFCW). In order to have a termination upheld by the bargaining unit, you need to follow the steps to ensure a termination sticks, and the unemployment is not granted.
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Right to work doesn't mean they can run the union out of stores, especially given that Kroger is a multi-state chain. (We have them here in VA as well.) I'm going to guess that Kroger writ large is unionized.Termite wrote:Louisiana is right-to-work. So is Texas, IIRC.evan price wrote:Because terminations require a clear chain of events. Kroger is unionized (UFCW). In order to have a termination upheld by the bargaining unit, you need to follow the steps to ensure a termination sticks, and the unemployment is not granted.
What right-to-work means is that when I'm hired, I can tell the union to go piss up a rope, I'd rather keep my entire paycheck, what of it the Taxman doesn't abscond with.
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That was my plan when working for Kroger while in high school in NW Louisiana. However, my mother, who was also a Kroger employee, UFCW member, and some sort of union rep informed me I was joining. She did offer to cover my union dues, though.Langenator wrote:Right to work doesn't mean they can run the union out of stores, especially given that Kroger is a multi-state chain. (We have them here in VA as well.) I'm going to guess that Kroger writ large is unionized.Termite wrote:Louisiana is right-to-work. So is Texas, IIRC.evan price wrote:Because terminations require a clear chain of events. Kroger is unionized (UFCW). In order to have a termination upheld by the bargaining unit, you need to follow the steps to ensure a termination sticks, and the unemployment is not granted.
What right-to-work means is that when I'm hired, I can tell the union to go piss up a rope, I'd rather keep my entire paycheck, what of it the Taxman doesn't abscond with.
Working for a unionized grocery store did have some advantages over working for the non-unionized ones. Kroger couldn't make baggers and checkers clock out and sit in the break room unpaid while business was slow. (My friends who worked at Brookshires had this done to them often.) We had to be scheduled in at least four hour shifts and we didn't work split shifts. As a high school student, I couldn't be scheduled to work past 10 PM on a school night.
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The 10PM on a school night was probably a state/federal law.
"Clock out but stay here" is BS. If I tell an employee to stay put somewhere I can't imagine not paying him. (Doing what you're told=being paid, if you aren't generating revenue, while doing it, it's a management issue.)
With that said, my favorite "luxury" is sending someone else to the store to buy my groceries...
Up there with custom clothing. (I think many folks have their priorities wrong - I'd rather spend money avoiding things I dislike than buy a nicer car/etc.)
"Clock out but stay here" is BS. If I tell an employee to stay put somewhere I can't imagine not paying him. (Doing what you're told=being paid, if you aren't generating revenue, while doing it, it's a management issue.)
With that said, my favorite "luxury" is sending someone else to the store to buy my groceries...
Up there with custom clothing. (I think many folks have their priorities wrong - I'd rather spend money avoiding things I dislike than buy a nicer car/etc.)
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Truth. That tactic only works on the young, the dumb, or the desperate (some overlap possible). Makes me wonder if it isn't a violation of some labor law, as well.
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Not totally sure the latter is legal, either, but it's definitely chickenshit.BDK wrote:The 10PM on a school night was probably a state/federal law.
"Clock out but stay here" is BS. If I tell an employee to stay put somewhere I can't imagine not paying him. (Doing what you're told=being paid, if you aren't generating revenue, while doing it, it's a management issue.)
Edit: They can certainly schedule you for split shifts, but if they tell you to just clock out and hang out in the break room, if you wanted to push the issue you could just leave. If they try to fire you for not being available when they decide they have work again, it seems that would make a dandy complaint with the DOL.
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Right there with you.BDK wrote:
Up there with custom clothing. (I think many folks have their priorities wrong - I'd rather spend money avoiding things I dislike than buy a nicer car/etc.)
I was always under the impression you could still be sued in a right-to-work state, because of Federal laws. So you still need to cya in any termination scenario.
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