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Postby Yogimus » Sun May 04, 2014 2:04 am

So I may have volunteered to be the president of a professional organization on base, and am absolutely clueless on what I am doing, besides violating regulations harder than a passed out promdate.

The organization's stated goal is to increase the sense of community among 300+ folks working 9 different shifts. Trying to bring the sense of an overseas base to a stateside installation. I am so far over my head that I don't even know what kind of help to ask for, so..

HELP

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Postby 308Mike » Sun May 04, 2014 8:17 am

I hope your an insomniac, 'cause that's what you will likely become *IF* you put your heart and soul into it, instead of considering it as a baby-sitting job for a bunch of barely adults who really have no clue what life is about (and you like to bitch and cuss about other people's upbringing, but THIS will bring it to a forefront!!). If you've never done this kind of thing before and don't ALREADY have an organizational structure set up (and YOU are the Guinea Pig for this evolution), then it appears you're gonna play SUPER PARENT for a while until you can get things outlined and structured, along with resources lined up and contacted so they know who you/your organization is/are.

There are a couple of different ways to look at this, and it all depends on your outlook and motivation. This can either be a ROYAL PITA and seriously depressing deal/job, or (which I'm SLIGHTLY leaning towards since it appears your heart is in the right place, and therefore subject to personal pain [VULNERABLE] for who you're supporting), a HUGE opportunity to demonstrate your ability to form a NEW organization which CAN ASSIST AND/OR CATER TO WELL OVER 10,000 personnel - and YOU were the one responsible and was able to SUCCESSFULLY accomplish your goal.

Now WHAT ORGANIZATION would NOT want to hire you when you get out???? This could be a HUGE opportunity for you to EXCEL WAYYYYYY ABOVE what might be expected from someone with your rank and experience. You have a HUGE pool of resources they might not even be away of to tap into in order to help you succeed!!!

PERSONALLY, I'm saying: GO FOR IT!!!!

It's a relatively low-profile operation with a potential for high-output success AND recognition. And if you're not up to the job, you'll find out early (hopefully), and they'll find someone else for it with little-to-no back-blast on you (they'd look at your age and just figure you weren't ready yet or didn't have enough experience - NONE of which will be held against you later) - HOWEVER, I have FAITH that you can pull this off (after all, you're pretty smart and CERTAINLY not as stupid as the person currently in the White House)!! AND there's a LOT of folks here who would be more than happy to see you succeed and make a name for yourself by helping you to think problems through.

I'd say (other than POSSIBLE violation of regulations), I think you CAN DO THIS, AND DO A DAMNED GOOD JOB OF IT - *IF* you decide you want to commit to the project and the work involved. You can make a hell-of-a-name for yourself WHEN (NOT *IF*) you pull this off!!!

I'm betting you can do this, AND do a good job of it!! Other than some sleep (and a little bit of heart-ache here and there), WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE???? There's a HUGE/GIGANTIC PLUS side for getting this off the ground (and yes, a portion of your soul will also go into the project 'cause if ANYONE messes it up, you'll want to kill them even if you'd no longer be associated with the project), and there's really little downside (unless you can get thrown into the Brig).

DO IT!!! Years from now, when you might be looking back on this opportunity, how would you like to view it and perhaps explain to your children and/or grandchildren about what you did with this project (Or would you NEVER say anything about it ever again)???

I'll support any decision you make, 'cause it's YOUR LIFE and ONLY YOU can live it. Try and picture yourself 30 years from now and evaluate what and WHY you made the decisions you did, to get to the places you wanted to go - WHEN YOU WERE MUCH YOUNGER and HAD the opportunity to create something awesome.

I support you either way. It's YOUR path to walk, and YOUR'S ALONE. NO ONE can do it for you. It's up to YOU to live YOUR LIFE.

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Re: Need help from military types (Professional org)

Postby Bullspit » Sun May 04, 2014 1:40 pm

Teach them all how to write movie reviews.
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Postby Vonz90 » Mon May 05, 2014 1:10 am

Do it the SWO way. Just secure all liberty off base until morale and unit cohesion improve.

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Re: Need help from military types (Professional org)

Postby Aglifter » Mon May 05, 2014 1:20 am

Ice cream days from a 1949 hotrod.

Given the usual government pricing schemes, for only $25MM, I will happily deliver 100 servings, sometime in the next 1-7 years - it may be melted, and quite possibly look more like bottles of hot sauce.

I will require 800 men to be specially trained to support the one truck - and reserve the right to show up with a boat which will require transport across land, using parts yet to be invented/not in inventory since 1947.

:D

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Postby First Shirt » Mon May 05, 2014 1:53 am

If you try to do it all yourself, you'll kill yourself. Learn to delegate, delegate, delegate. If the minions that you delegate to can't do what you want, find other minions.

If you realize, at some point, that what you're trying to do isn't working, stop. The first step to getting out of a hole is to quit digging.

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Re: Need help from military types (Professional org)

Postby JAG2955 » Mon May 05, 2014 2:03 am

More info on the goal would help.

I had a boss who once said something to the tune of "social events are your appointed place of duty" when he wanted to have one. It did force some people to go who didn't want to, but it did improve officer cohesion. Eventually, people went without bitching because they wanted to. Beer flowed pretty freely and we played a lot of dice. The officers were tight. We hung out together during off hours and on the weekends. One team, one fight, and all that jazz. Nobody was a backstabber or out for themselves. The support from each other was outstanding.

Now I'm in a unit where it's like pulling teeth to get guys to show up, even when I buy a case of beer. I can count on a small handful, but some guys wouldn't show up if there was free beer, food, and hookers. It's a crying shame, because I can get more useful work done in a relaxed atmosphere with a beer in my hand than I can in a meeting with a power point presentation.

The hardest part is making people want to go. The easiest way is to make it mandatory and during working hours. Sucks to be on the late/mid shift though. Bring in outside food/a caterer at no cost to the attendees. Use and abuse the Family Readiness Officer/whatever the zoomie equivalent of Marine Corps Community Services is/O-club or E-club like a rented mule. Make them do most of the work, then you can take the credit. Whatever you can tie the organization to, use that group's money. (The safety office always has a ton of dough and it's easy for them to justify.) Sweet talk the base theater into doing a special showing of a movie that's only slightly related to your group's message. Speaker comes up, blabs for ten minutes, then you get to watch a movie on base for a buck.

Oh, here's another secret: Come to this meeting, get the rest of this day off. First boss loved that trick. Hey, let's have a squadron Halloween run. Prizes for the best costumes. At the end of it, he gave everyone in costume the rest of the day off, or if they were indispensable, a different day off. It'll probably be hard for you to get that one approved, depending what level this is at. But if it does get approved, watch how your attendance skyrockets for the next meeting, where a day off won't be handed out. In fact, one probably won't be handed out again until attendance drops. But they don't know that.

Do it off base if you can, civilian clothes if possible.

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Re: Need help from military types (Professional org)

Postby Jericho941 » Mon May 05, 2014 2:53 am

JAG2955 wrote:I swear to God, if anyone even suggests a Jane Wayne Day, punch them in the crotch.


What the hell is tha-

*googles*

Dear God, why!?

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Re: Need help from military types (Professional org)

Postby Kommander » Mon May 05, 2014 3:07 am

Stage Angry Badger vs Airman fights.

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Postby Netpackrat » Mon May 05, 2014 3:39 am

Kommander wrote:Stage Angry Badger vs Airman fights.


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Postby Netpackrat » Mon May 05, 2014 3:44 am

Courtesy of some guy who copied and pasted to his blog... Reading it again already raised my morale.

*posted on kimdutoit.com* by Yogi
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I work for Uncle sam, way out in the boonies.

We spend a lot of our time out in the country side, surrounded by farmland. This time of season is when farmers start harvesting. All this harvesting has a nasty tendency of chasing all sorts of critters on to our facilities.

One of these "guests" happened to be a badger. On a sidenote, a badger is a mean piece of critter. It does NOT back down from anything, for any reason. EVER. A grizzly bear will run from a badger.

We noticed the badger within the fenceline, and we figured he would eventually walk off site, and left it at that. Well, Mr Supertroop figured he would prove his manhood. He grabbed a 2 foot long screwdriver, a plastic garbage can lid as a shield, and departed to slay the beast.

I went into my office, and started calling my supervisor. I figured supertroop will be needing a ride to the hospital soon, and the sooner we get him a driver the better. While waiting to get off hold, we all gathered by the windows to watch the show. It was about this time when the bets were made.

Supertrooper had no trouble finding the badger. He valiantly approached the 15 pound monster, his screwdriver held high. Things looked bleak for our little fuzzy interloper. Until... he threw the screwdriver. And hit. Not with the point. The handle. Supertroop just gave up his weapon. Things turned ugly at that point.

Accounts differ on what happened next... All we know is there was a fuzzy blur, and lots of screaming and squeaking. I can only tell you what I saw.

The badger charged supertroop, who was about 20 feet away. Supertroop stood his ground, and raised his shield to fend off the beast. That was his second mistake. The badger ran right under the lid at his leg, and proceeded to tear his leg into little bloody strips.

To defend himself, he proceeded to whack the badger with the garbage can lid. The badger attacked the shield, and wripped it into tiny bits. Supertroop took the opportunity to run away. Because he was in a panic, he ran away in a random direction. Not towards the door, but behind a garage...

By now the badger was finished with the shield, and was looking for more. It started going after supertroop again, hissing and hopping like a fuzzy little hellbeast. All courage has left our Hero's heart, and he ran around the garage, screaming. Unfortunately for him, the garage was locked. He did about 1 1/2 laps before he saw us waving him in to the main building. Finally, he ran into the room, inches in front of the badger.

His pants and right boot were shredded, and he was bleeding fairly badly. We cleaned his leg, (looked worse than what it was) and tried to calm him down. He was crying hysterically. He ended up getting a few rabies shots.

The badger suffered no visible injury. In fact it stood guard outside the door for a good 20 minutes until hosed off by fire extiguishers.
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Postby Yogimus » Mon May 05, 2014 5:33 am

Here is my recruitment statement:

- Good morning flight, I am here as a representative of an organization. (name left out for this post) I am standing this group up from scratch, and I need a volunteer from each of your flights.

Our purpose is to increase unit cohesion, and to encourage competition and camaraderie among flights.
We are here for YOU, the airman. Here is what we are not: We are not a "Volunteer" organization. We will give absolutely nothing to the community. Our focus is you only. We are not a fund raising organization. Above all, we are not an organization to join if you just want to fill a block on your evaluations sheet. If you volunteer, you will WORK. We meet biweekly, on sundays and mondays.





As for the stuff we do, our 1st event is to hold a bowling tournament for all the flights, and we are getting pretty good participation. I have ZERO authority over any of the flights, so I have no screws to turn.

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Postby Highspeed » Mon May 05, 2014 2:30 pm

Yogimus wrote: Good morning flight, I am here as a representative of an organization. (name left out for this post) I am standing this group up from scratch, and I need a volunteer from each of your flights.

Our purpose is to increase unit cohesion, and to encourage competition and camaraderie among flights by engaging in ill advised bouts of single combat with enraged badgers.
We are here for YOU, the airman. And the badgers too of course, they get bored without airmen to savage. Here is what we are not: We are not a "Volunteer" organization. We will give absolutely nothing to the community, except the occasional badger pelt, or maybe an airman pelt.
Our focus is you only. We are not a fund raising organization. Above all, we are not an organization to join if you dislike being mauled by furry hellmonsters. If you volunteer, you will possibly get rabies and definitely lose a lot of blood. We meet biweekly, on sundays and mondays, badgers permitting
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Postby tcourtplayer » Wed May 07, 2014 7:42 am

My best piece of advice is to get buy in from the highest level you think will support it/you are willing to put up with. Having the squadron CO or better yet the base/wing CO excited about it can open up a lot of possibilities for events and/or rewards that Jag was mentioning. Be aware though that whatever level you get buy in from though will want to feel included. This can range from the simple "let me know what you need" to "make sure I know when the meetings are so I can stop by and go full blown good idea fairy on this."
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Re: Need help from military types (Professional org)

Postby Vonz90 » Wed May 07, 2014 5:18 pm

Clearly my approach is the best. Go with it Yogi. Everyone else doesn't want acknowledge it because they are jealous.

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Postby blackeagle603 » Wed May 07, 2014 5:52 pm

yeah, in the finest traditions of the Naval Service, "Liberty is secured until morale improves."

After 60 days straight of 12on/12off tell they'll be eligible for 2 stale beers on the fantail at 1100HRS -- op tempo and committments permitting. Needs of the Navy prevail.
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Re: Need help from military types (Professional org)

Postby Jericho941 » Wed May 07, 2014 5:55 pm

See, the problem with that plan is that we like our Air Force bases not burnt to the ground.

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Postby Weetabix » Thu May 08, 2014 5:19 am

Ask the guys who contact you if they've ever organized an event anything like one you're considering. Tell him to do it again, only this time for your organization. Delegation is the key.
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Postby Vonz90 » Thu May 08, 2014 2:38 pm

blackeagle603 wrote:yeah, in the finest traditions of the Naval Service, "Liberty is secured until morale improves."

After 60 days straight of 12on/12off tell they'll be eligible for 2 stale beers on the fantail at 1100HRS -- op tempo and commitments permitting. Needs of the Navy prevail.


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Postby Rumpshot » Thu May 08, 2014 4:51 pm

blackeagle603 wrote:yeah, in the finest traditions of the Naval Service, "Liberty is secured until morale improves."

After 60 days straight of 12on/12off tell they'll be eligible for 2 stale beers on the fantail at 1100HRS -- op tempo and committments permitting. Needs of the Navy prevail.

You forgot to mention, I was one of those that controlled/issued the stale beer to you and your shipmates. :lol: Also there exists a photo of me and my partner in crime consuming one of those stale beers.
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Postby blackeagle603 » Thu May 08, 2014 5:51 pm

Beer day and Steel Beach was always a bust for us airedale nightcheckers. As was any other holiday routine day: holiday for ship's company, routine for us.
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Re: Need help from military types (Professional org)

Postby Vonz90 » Thu May 08, 2014 6:49 pm

blackeagle603 wrote:Beer day and Steel Beach was always a bust for us airedale nightcheckers. As was any other holiday routine day: holiday for ship's company, routine for us.


That is to laugh. The only ones I ever saw using the wardroom underway (other than at meal hours) were brown shoes.

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Postby blackeagle603 » Thu May 08, 2014 7:50 pm

heh, notice i qualified the statement, "nightcheck airedales"

Enlisted airedales are either daycheckers or nightcheckers. Shifts run 7 to 7.
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Re: Need help from military types (Professional org)

Postby Goods2010 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:28 am

Kommander wrote:Stage Angry Badger vs Airman fights.


I would most certainly give up precious free time and show up for that...


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